X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1435" "Wed" "25" "November" "1998" "19:37:19" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "35" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19486; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.8ABD7614@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:46 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411327 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:42 +0100 Received: from ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.1]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10395 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:40 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:26 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:15 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:36:42 +0100 X400-Received: by mta open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:36:41 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN2 in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:19 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13916.19124.230604.70394@fell.o] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: What is (... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: <199811142302.AAA24385@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de>, <365A9F55.88C46733@na.uni-tuebingen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13916.19124.230604.70394@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981125083751.024e3730@tiac.net> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:37:19 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2926 > > No. You can't review articles. What???? We can, and do, all the time. You may really mean we cannot (without some cost) administer this process. > You can't provide easy searching and access > to all articles in an area. This is certainly something that should be provided a t a reasonable cost by the correct type of organisation. But in pure maths this has only ever been seriously attempted by Math Reviews and Zentralblatt; and both of these, although naturally having close connections with publishing, are clearly part of the mathematical community and employi at senior levels academic mathematicians rather than "publishers". I have no idea if this yet another way in which maths is "different" but that concept is not at all new to me; it is a daily part of my working life as I represent the species in an institution which necessarily (and very effectively) standardises anything that moves (or at least anything that costs money). I do know that maths is very different in the requirements it makes of intra-document search engines. This is one, of many, reasons why the idea of MathML came to fruition (NOTE: I am not claiming that MathML, as is, has delivered what is needed in this area). And again, here, it seems unlikely that, even given the right languages/tools, publishers will be able to provide useful added-value in this area without using specialised mathematicians to encode documents. chris