X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["920" "Wed" "25" "November" "1998" "19:24:02" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "25" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15866; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <8.B12DAF34@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:32 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411323 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:23 +0100 Received: from ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.1]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09489 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:21 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:08 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:21:21 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:20:48 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:02 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13916.18716.162722.15377@fell.o] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: What is (... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: , <365A9F55.88C46733@na.uni-tuebingen.de>, <13913.60537.514744.407614@srahtz>, <13916.96.643934.277862@srahtz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13916.18716.162722.15377@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <19981125165741.D8854@maths.tcd.ie> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:24:02 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2925 Timothy Murphy wrote -- > On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 01:04:32PM +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > when i joined this company, I worked in TeX support, in a religious > > way; 4 years later, its plain as the nose on your face that TeX _as > > author/editor interface_ has lost the battle for market dominance. the > > Good Guys do not always win, historically [1] > > But surely not in the mathematical arena? Where there is at present no "market". As Tim said, some people's reality right now is that there is barely time to breath between writing/editing/reading books in TeX/LaTeX (this does, here, not include Elsevier books as we cannot afford them ... maybe something to do with their understanding of "the market"?:-). How long this will continue for, I have no idea; but so far Don's and Leslie's predictions of "something ebetter in 10 years" certainly have not been reflected any reality whatsoever. chris