X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1179" "Wed" "25" "November" "1998" "14:52:27" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "28" "Re: figures and images (was \"base\" LaTeX)" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03241; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:53:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.400544C9@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:53:47 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411103 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:53:42 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20149 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:53:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA13013; hop 0; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:45:05 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:52:50 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <98112514204991@man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <13916.6571.831755.492347@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <98112514204991@man.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:52:27 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: figures and images (was "base" LaTeX) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2915 Phillip Helbig writes: > I disagree here. The beauty of PSFRAG is that one can divorce the > graphic from the .tex file. Often, graphics are made for overheads etc > and later recycled in a .tex file. i can sort of see this scenario, but it sounds weird. why dont you generate the graphics in a high-level system if this is your need? > recreate the plot, which in some cases might mean a lot of effort, every > time I change fonts in my document!!!!!!! The whole beauty of TeX/LaTeX > is macros; I don't want to hard-wire fonts into anything! i sympathize. and would use Metapost for my plots, obviating the problem :-} (but then Berthold would hate me again) > Or I might use a plot in one paper with one notation and the same plot, > say for a semi-popular talk, with a different notation. > > Long live PSFRAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > psfrag is great, _if_ you live in a world of one formatter, and one page description language. Big "if", if you ask me (which you didnt, before anyone says so) i know i sound like an evangelist, but XML/MathML/SVG really *are* designed to cover this sort of game. your SVG graphic will embed MathML markup cleanly. Sebastian