X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1149" "Wed" "25" "November" "1998" "13:50:28" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "29" "Re: figures and images (was \"base\" LaTeX)" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22518; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:50:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.74265F88@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:50:49 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 411051 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:50:43 +0100 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13903 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:50:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zifKv-0007Ni-00; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:50:29 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:34:11 EST." <4.1.19981125083114.024e3020@tiac.net> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:50:28 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: figures and images (was "base" LaTeX) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2912 > At 23:15 1998-11-23 +0000, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > > - Guidelines for including graphics (psfrag???) > > >aaargh! and you expect me to translate your psfrag stuff to XML??? > > Indeed. You may need to get away from all such specialized hacks from > the TeX world (and there are many when it comes to graphics) and > focus on standard formats like EPS (for `vector graphics') psfrag is an eps-patcher (allows you to match fonts between the figure and the surrounding body text). > and TIFF (for images). tiff isn't the only image standard, now that iso has put its stamp of approval on png... (there's also ipi/iif, but that's rather ott for simple image inclusion. and i don't know of any implementations...) > In the TeX world we have a habit of digging ourselves into > holes from which it is hard to extricate ourselves. Not sure why, but > the `not invented here' syndrome may play a role in it. i don't think that's really reasonable. some formats were designed for use with tex in the early years, but i find their use increasingly rare, now that more widely-available techniques have largely been integrated into tex. robin