X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["635" "Wed" "11" "November" "1998" "17:55:27" "GMT" "David Carlisle" "davidc@NAG.CO.UK" nil "16" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "What is \"base\" LaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17267; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.634BBE60@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:00 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 408041 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:55:56 +0100 Received: from nag.co.uk (openmath.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.16]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02475 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:55:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id RAA27344; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:55:27 GMT References: <199811111705.MAA10552@hilbert.math.albany.edu> <19981111174655.I30536@maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: <199811111755.RAA27344@nag.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <19981111174655.I30536@maths.tcd.ie> (message from Timothy Murphy on Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:46:55 +0000) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:55:27 GMT From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2867 > has mentioned one very eminent "cathedral product", > namely tex itself. TeX is more ``tablets of stone handed down'', rather than something ``centrally maintained in a Cathedral''. The question is how best to let latex develop. TeXs model of no development at all, and don't fix any bugs if you can conceivably get away with calling them a feature is not one that really appeals. That is not to criticise DEK (much:-) he has after all a book or two to write, and does encourage the developments of non-texs like pdftex. David PS > Of course Linus is much kinder than Them. so how often has Linus given you a lift to the airport?