X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1061" "Wed" "11" "November" "1998" "09:49:08" "GMT" "Phillip Helbig" "helbig@MAN.AC.UK" nil "22" "Re: XML (was quotes, a very long time ago)" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "XML (was quotes, a very long time ago)" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00458; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:58:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <13.B01CB734@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:58:33 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407419 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:58:27 +0100 Received: from multivac (multivac.jb.man.ac.uk [130.88.24.128]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15354 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:49:45 +0100 (MET) X-VMS-To: SMTP%"LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de" X-VMS-Cc: HELBIG Message-ID: <98111109490802@man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:49:08 GMT From: Phillip Helbig Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: XML (was quotes, a very long time ago) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2844 > > The first time I got in emacs, I could not get > > out and killed the process from another session :))))) Since > > then, when I use a piece of software, I first ask: how can one > > get out of it? ;) > > Why didn't you use the pull down menues? I suppose it is possible that things hang and they are not accessible. I've never seen it with emacs, but I don't use emacs much (and then often -nw). Something I've seen a lot on different platforms though is that some `invisible emacs' hogs the CPU and the user, unless he does a ps, doesn't even know it's running. -- Phillip Helbig Email ......... p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. .... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 297) Jodrell Bank Fax ................ +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................ 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web ... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/ My opinions are not necessarily those of NRAL or the University of Manchester.