X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1446" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "23:32:59" "+0330" "Roozbeh Pournader" "rpnader@VAX.IPM.AC.IR" nil "32" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "What is \"base\" LaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24898; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:05:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <15.4F5E8094@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:05:29 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 408257 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:05:24 +0100 Received: from ROSE.IPM.AC.IR (vax.ipm.ac.ir [194.225.70.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13630 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:04:43 +0100 (MET) Received: by ROSE.IPM.AC.IR (MX V4.1 VAX) id 166; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:33:01 +0330 Message-ID: <009CF08A.EA78CA00.166@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:32:59 +0330 From: Roozbeh Pournader Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2832 Phillip Helbig wrote: > First, not everyone uses tetex or even unix. Second, `getting it from > CTAN' is, for a normal `individual user', too much work. The typical > user doesn't even know what CTAN is. Even if he does, is he familiar > with getting stuff from it? As Joe User he can't install it system > wide, so several people could have their own, perhaps inconsistent > copies. Even if he knows the ropes and/or is the system manager, > installing several packages just to format one document might be too > much. I agree very much. I make examples from our "far from technology" country. In our user list of FarsiTeX (who are about 300-400), almost everyone has Internet access, and almost 50% are computer hackers/programmers. But the people who know CTAN are about 15, and the people who have used it at least one are about 8. From these 8, not all can install a package without others help, and in these "others", only one person is not an implementation team member! (Haahaa! I can count the users here! Which one of you can do the same in his country? ;) The mass will use any package we provide. METAPOST (sorry, not a LaTeX package!) is not in the FarsiTeX distribution (since the great manager doesn't like it) then no one uses METAPOST in Iran except me and few friends. (There are two other TeX distributions in Iran that are commercial and very expensive, and it follows that the situation is worse there.) --Roozbeh