X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["796" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "17:18:38" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "20" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "What is \"base\" LaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32048; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <13.0669EC2D@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:48 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 408101 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:41 +0100 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00037 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zdHR9-0000iu-00; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:18:39 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:56:36 GMT." <199811101656.QAA29932@nag.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:18:38 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2826 > I suspect that that is _not_ what is needed, people, including people > claiming they want to fight in a bazaar really want a set of files that > gets official blessing. To do blessings you need a cathedral (a fount > may help as well). > > > but our bishops dont have the resources to maintain the fabric; > > which is where we came in.... so what we need is a few people with the gall of napoleon to turn up one morning and put mitres on their own heads. it seems plain to me that unless someone stands up and says "i'm doing this blessing stuff", it's not going to get done. this is largely because it's a big job and no-one wants to offer someone else's time. the problem is that not every potential candidate has the skill of a napoleon, to match the gall to crown him- or herself. r