X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1444" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "16:22:49" "GMT" "David Carlisle" "davidc@NAG.CO.UK" nil "27" "Re: frontmatter was: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23181; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.4AE0BC03@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:27 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407944 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:22 +0100 Received: from nag.co.uk (openmath.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.16]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22785 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:20 +0100 (MET) Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA16808; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:22:49 GMT References: <98111016021016@man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199811101622.QAA16808@nag.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <98111016021016@man.ac.uk> (message from Phillip Helbig on Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:02:10 GMT) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:22:49 GMT From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: frontmatter was: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2821 > Yes. However, why not send additional files? Not the equivalent of the > .bib, but the equivalent of the .blg. bbl? The publisher is likely to want `the equivalent of the .bib'. While authors may be given latex classes and supporting packages to produce a manuscript that looks more or less like the printed journal, these days the main requirement of the electronic document, especially the frontmatter section, is that it can be parsed and the data stuck into some document database maintained in house by the publisher. In some cases the publisher may want to convert the whole document (as they don't use tex in house at all) but even when they do use tex to format, they probably want to extract the frontmatter fields as data. So the aim of the game is to provide a system where the author provides as much information as possible, not one where they supply the information half digested with a view to one particular set of formatting requirements. (speaking of .bib -> .bbl one thing I did was to try to make a bibtex style set up so that essentially the .bbl file contained sufficient information to re-create the .bib fields, so that even though the author could submit the putatively `formatted' version of the bibliography, the individual fields like author name and journal title and dates were unambiguously marked up in the result, not needing to be guessed from font changes). David