X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1447" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "15:47:38" "GMT" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "33" "Re: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17037; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:47:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.532F8405@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:47:54 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407813 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:47:49 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18678 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:47:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA07118; hop 0; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:39:43 GMT Received: from screavie.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:41 +0000 Received: from lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.7]) by screavie.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02022 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:33 GMT Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA07264; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:38 GMT References: <98110912272255@man.ac.uk> <199811101228.MAA14652@nag.co.uk> <13896.14781.711560.872729@srahtz> <199811101506.QAA13956@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <199811101547.PAA07264@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199811101506.QAA13956@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:38 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2819 Michael writes: > areas. I imagine this would often involve picking the best of two > or three choices and merging in some nice details from the > alternatives that were not selected. Isnt this where You end up with a vast amount of work? and, being perfectionists, You will want to rewrite it all :-} > 4. Very frequent releases > > One potential area for trouble that I see is that there is a symbiosis > on a given computer between the LaTeX system and the documents that it true. its an issue the Linux example does not cover, you are right. but can it get much worse than it is now? how many conversations have I got in my email box with people trying to install JadeTeX and finding that they have to have the very latest LaTeX, or it all falls to pieces? (answer: lots) > kernel) and even of tfm files (recall the scenario a few years ago > with interword spacing in the tfm files generated by fontinst: first > rather narrow, then changed to wider values in a later release))) i still have nightmares about it, thanks > a document that I wrote two years ago and try to run it through LaTeX > again; then I find that one of the pieces that it requires is missing > or doesn't work any more. indeed. and thats under the Mage system we have now... I'd have serious doubts about a Bazaar model for the LaTeX kernel. but a LaTeX-agreed "recommended" layer of packages would be a genuine advance, IMHO. Sebastian