X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2125" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "14:07:30" "GMT" "Phillip Helbig" "helbig@MAN.AC.UK" nil "45" "Re: frontmatter was: What is \"base\" LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32250; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.1C4581FC@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:18 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407635 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:13 +0100 Received: from multivac (multivac.jb.man.ac.uk [130.88.24.128]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08134 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:09 +0100 (MET) X-VMS-To: SMTP%"LATEX-L@urz.uni-heidelberg.de" X-VMS-Cc: HELBIG Message-ID: <98111014073073@man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:07:30 GMT From: Phillip Helbig Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: frontmatter was: What is "base" LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2810 > > Yes, we should get back to that and away from the loftier stuff! I'll try to find some time to start thinking about this again! > There are plans (only plans) to have some new classes next year in > addition to the current article/report/book that will have some new > features, one of which would be an improved frontmatter interface. > > There are of course existing extended frontmatter interfaces in many of > the publishers journal class files (eg Elsevier and AMS). > A much sterner test for a new frontmatter interface would be revtex as > that is not just for a single journal, one needs an interface that can > cope with several different typograpic styles, and ordering arrangemens, > and cope with a community of authors who go in for bizarre practices > like having a 200 author author-list that is probably longer than the > document text. It seems to me that three constraints are necessary: o it should look as much like present LaTeX as possible o it should be flexible enough to address the needs of all present and future(!) journals o one should not have to bother with features which are not needed in a particular application It seems to me that something similar to BibTeX is the best solution. There have been some preliminary versions of this mentioned on this list. The journal could modify the \maketitle command to get all the frontmatter stuff (institute, email, present address, corresponding author, acknowledgements to title or authors etc etc) out of a .bib-like file, using what it needs and complaining if something is not there. The author just writes \title{efwe}\author{Fwfe}\date{fsfs} as usual (OK, perhaps some optional arguments to \date are needed). -- Phillip Helbig Email ......... p.helbig@jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. .... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 297) Jodrell Bank Fax ................ +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................ 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web ... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/