X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1876" "Tue" "10" "November" "1998" "10:02:54" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "49" "Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21067; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:23:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <15.F1B586BD@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:23:03 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407265 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:22:57 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12329 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:22:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA23936; hop 0; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:38 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:22:30 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <009CEFAD.3BBA2D20.77@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Message-ID: <13896.3918.854132.703060@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <009CEFAD.3BBA2D20.77@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:02:54 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2804 Roozbeh Pournader writes: > > the mass users use Microsoft software. Internet Explorer 5 renders XML > > natively > > I can't understand, XML is good or bad? If it is good, why does Microsoft > support it?! ;) so that they can suck people into using it, then change it in ways incompatible with the standard, and hope you stay locked in. cf the Halloween documents > LaTeX input syntax to become SGML-compatible (or XML-compatible), and write > SGML directly in it, or you are speaking of a complete > (i.e., fully complete) support for equivalents of SGML things in LaTeX > and a convertor from SGML to LaTeX? the latter > But what about a math interface, which a big part of TeX community > are users of? Please don't speak of MathML, ok? ;) hard not to > I don't like neither those things which look unnecessary, > nor putting or around every math atom. All > these, also make my files very large. who cares about file size? anyway, we have to assume that we'll use structured math editors. i know most people on this list will scream, but interfaces like MathType (which exports MathML) are not at all bad > What I currently do, is typing Persian using local keyboard > in an editor my colleagues in the FarsiTeX project have written, contradicing the above, where you say you rely on plain ASCII editors! > user doesn't like loading a big editor for simple tasks such as > typing a memo, which previously could be done using old dear `vi'. > Got it? no. you use a special editor for special input, why not do the same with math? > Also, someone who has grown up with TeX input language, > loves the input syntax. :) i reserve my love for humans and plants :-} > Specially, U.S. government and Iranian government can't bear > each other but you won the footbal match. well done, i enjoyed watching it sebastian