X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["898" "Mon" "9" "November" "1998" "17:09:31" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "25" "Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05521; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:09:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.9666974A@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:09:42 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 408394 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:09:38 +0100 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23897 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:09:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zcuoo-0008Au-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:09:34 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:52:21 GMT." <199811091652.QAA04107@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:09:31 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2801 > > For the most part I think that it does not make sense for me to > > rely on a standard that is "owned" because I then have the concern > > that it could be changed in an unfair way. > > perhaps we could have an example of a "standard" that is not "owned"; > it is completely contradictory!! i imagine was thinking of `standards' such as rtf -- things that are specifically `owned' by a commercial organisation (and, apparently, changed at that organisation's whim). > ISO is "owned" by its members who are national bodies, specifically required to represent the interests of nation states. (those are the `p'[articipating] and `o'[bserving] members: there are also provisions for `l'[iaison] members, but they don't have -- can't have -- votes.) iso and iec and itu are parts of the united nations general setup... r [*] sorry, i've forgotten and deleted the mail