X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1320" "Mon" "9" "November" "1998" "13:34:28" "+0100" "Marcel Oliver" "oliver@NA.MATHEMATIK.UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE" nil "28" "Re: pattern matching in LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18436; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <14.2C8D01B1@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:43 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407467 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:38 +0100 Received: from na.uni-tuebingen.de (root@na.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.161.64]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12568 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de (na6 [134.2.161.170]) by na.uni-tuebingen.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18889 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from na.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02103 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:29 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199811061649.RAA18880@na6.mathematik.uni-tuebingen.de> <13894.46384.268699.379786@srahtz> <3646CC04.6171ADF1@na.uni-tuebingen.de> <13894.53699.585814.765836@srahtz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3646E154.E86C1099@na.uni-tuebingen.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:28 +0100 From: Marcel Oliver Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: pattern matching in LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2777 Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > not being a mathematician, i am not sure how to comment on this. i had > just assumed that publishing "logical" math is a Good Thing I guess the problem is not whether math is logical, but that published math contains a lot of omissions or jumps which people who work in the field know how to fill in. This is a necessary mechanism for optimal human-to-human communication. > > ones that drive mathematical innovation. Thus, having data formats > > which are optimized for presentation, and others which are optimized for > > machine processing of the logical content is, > i take the point that you need both, that we cannot get rid of > presentation math, because it performs a valuable function. but for > the *default*, low-class, mass-market math, surely you'd agree that > content markup is desirable? surely school textbook math should have > not have \hspace s in? Absolutely. I guess on this level things are, at least in principle, taken care of by LaTeX, so I assume we are talking about one step further: That, at present, I cannot take a piece of LaTeX code, read it unambiguously into Mathematica and work with it. (I am using this just as an example because I am most familiar with the two, but I guess everybody can replace these by their favorite systems...) Marcel