X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1386" "Mon" "9" "November" "1998" "12:32:53" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "31" "Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18303; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:33:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.F22B715B@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:33:06 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407460 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:33:01 +0100 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12367 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:32:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zcqV5-0005ZR-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:32:55 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:24:31 GMT." <98110912243170@man.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:32:53 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2776 > > > I think TeX society should not go under indirect supervision > > > of ISO, W3C, etc. because there will come some time that one considers > > > charging > > oh come! dont be *too* paranoid. if we have to pay a license fee to use > > ISO standards, the world will have become *very* odd... in fact, there do exist iso standards which require you to pay implementation licence fees. there are very strict guidelines, however, about standardising patented techniques: in particular, the owner of the patent is required to declare that they will never refuse an application for licence. > From what I understand with regard to Fortran standards, if you want a > copy of the standard, you have to pay a substantial sum to ISO. if you want a copy of the latex book, you have to pay a sustantial sum to addison wesley longman. less, i admit, than one pays to one's national standards body[*] for a transposed copy of something as big as fortran, but the principle is the same. personally, i would be quite happy to be using something for which a formal specification, to which i could test compliance, existed. but i think i'm a bit unusual in that. perhaps it comes from having seen the standardsation process from the inside... r [*] none but a true idiot _buys_ standards from iso. bsi's charges for standards are extortionate, but as nothing by comparison with iso's.