X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1922" "Mon" "9" "November" "1998" "12:02:21" "+0000" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "48" "Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14458; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:10:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.D8EC678A@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:10:55 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407383 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:10:49 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08120 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA24015; hop 0; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:55:32 GMT Received: from srahtz (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:02:34 +0000 X-Mailer: emacs 20.3.2 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 20.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <009CEF7B.C5DEEF40.49@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Message-ID: <13894.55757.217128.444765@srahtz> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <009CEF7B.C5DEEF40.49@ROSE.IPM.AC.IR> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:02:21 +0000 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes, HTML, and FrontPage Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2772 > Ok, I'll try, but will mass users be able to use them? the mass users use Microsoft software. Internet Explorer 5 renders XML natively > Are splendid quality > free renderers available for poor students using Linux? yes, of course. the renderer is TeX! > I think TeX society should not go under indirect supervision > of ISO, W3C, etc. because there will come some time that one considers > charging oh come! dont be *too* paranoid. if we have to pay a license fee to use ISO standards, the world will have become *very* odd... > Aha! I understood it. But why are you trying to convert LaTeX to another > engine? I am not. I want TeX to run TeX code. > Why not doing this kind of work with TeX himself (!), and have > smaller load and more speed? TeX? small and fast? you are joking, right? > Also, I want to ask, ``Exactly how do you want your computer to do the > writing for you?'' i dont want it to write, i want it to take stuff and turn it into typeset pages, with the instruction that the contents of should be represented as a list item object > that. The real point is that I want my input to be as readable as possible, > and also, as portable as possible. You can't imagine, an end user really the text may be *stored* as ggg, that does not follow that your editor will show exactly that. you are from Iran - do you want to type Farsi (excuse me if wrong) in ASCII encoding for the rest of your life? or type on your local keyboard and see the glyphs on the screen? [1] > I, as a TeX programmer, also want the programming interface, more > powerful and easier, and considering experimental L3PL, I am very hopeful. > oh sure, agreed on that, writing style files will be better. but who wants to write different style files for every renderer.... sebastian [1] ok so you probably use a latin alphabet :-} but you see what i mean