X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1187" "Sat" "7" "November" "1998" "15:42:05" "+0100" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "39" "Re: Quotes and punctuation" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "Quotes and punctuation" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30270; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:45:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.28C35954@listserv.gmd.de>; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:45:50 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407105 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:16 +0100 Received: from ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.2]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14047 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:14 +0100 (MET) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:09 +0100 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:04 +0100 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:41:41 +0100 X400-Received: by mta open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:41:40 +0100 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN2 in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:05 +0100 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<13892.23185.147997.613395@fell.] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: Quotes an... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: <199811051649.LAA20522@hilbert.math.albany.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13892.23185.147997.613395@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199811051649.LAA20522@hilbert.math.albany.edu> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:42:05 +0100 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes and punctuation Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2760 William F. Hammond wrote -- > > SGML is all about fast staged processing. It is not very much about > getting on to paper. That sounds like a reasonable summary of reality, if not theoretically true. > > There is a very lucrative and apparently profitable industry out there > lurking behind closed doors. ????? Doing what exactly? Or are the doors too firmly closed to see? > > I suggest that individuals should think in terms of multiple SGML > transformations as pre-processing for LaTeX. Some industrial strength > publishers *may* want to think in terms of multiple SGML transformations > as pre-processing to TeX directly. That is certainly an interesting question in general: staright to TeX vs via LaTeX. Limited expereince suggests that some mixture may be needed; but a lot depends on how and where the formatting is specified. > > I am wary of messing with Knuth's TeX. Most everyone was until the last few years but some psychological barrier has since been broken and there are now several projects doing very good work in this area. Also, Knuth himself always wanted people to mess with it, as long as the result is clearly distinguished from his TeX. chris