X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1360" "Thu" "5" "November" "1998" "17:37:31" "+0000" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "33" "Re: Quotes and punctuation" "^Date:" nil nil "11" nil "Quotes and punctuation" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09954; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:44:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.CAF21810@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:44:33 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 407496 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:37:42 +0100 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17745 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:37:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk (cl.cam.ac.uk) [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zbTLi-0007L1-00; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:37:34 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:03:13 EST." <199811051318.OAA24936@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:37:31 +0000 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Quotes and punctuation Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2736 Peter Schmitt wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:09:45 GMT Sebastian Rahtz said: > >it was a joke. i was simplying that rendering of abstract things like > >`quoted text' need not involve quote marks; and that SGML/XML markup > >of abstract markup is much easier to parse than TeX.... > > The relevant comparison in this case is with _LaTeX markup_ > ( TeX could parse SGML/XML as easily as any other program :-) careful, now. sgml (with all bells and whistles) has been tried, and no product has ensued: while it's possible in principle (cf all those silly arguments about turing completeness and what it means) it seems rather difficult in practice. xml is, of course, a different matter, having been designed to address these parsing issues. > But, of course, LaTeX is more friendly to the user than HTML > -- that's the penalty one has to pay ... i boggle (is it _really_ peter saying this? ;-) i had an argument earlier today with a research student here, where i was suggesting that the perceived difficulty of html was due to his lack of familiarity with it. as sebastian said (while i was in my seminar), the proof of this pudding is the number of authors in the respective languages. i continue to believe that there remains a future for a latex-like language, but it's impossible to claim that it's going to be the majority's choice. robin