X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1541" "Wed" "21" "October" "1998" "21:09:11" "+0200" "Martin Schroeder" "ms@DREAM.KN-BREMEN.DE" nil "49" "Re: Users dropping into TeX" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) X-POP3-Rcpt: schoepf@polly.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10515; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:23:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <2.7C862B14@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:23:18 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 402960 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:23:13 +0200 Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (root@blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [194.94.232.249]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29955 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:23:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dream.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id VAA25097 for latex-l@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:15:16 +0200 Received: by dream.kn-bremen.de (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 21 Oct 98 21:09:11 -2 for latex-l@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de References: <199810211301.JAA11121@hilbert.math.albany.edu> X-Mailer: Helldiver 1.08 (Waffle 1.65) Lines: 48 Message-ID: <3WoL2AgGBh108h@dream.kn-bremen.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Organization: The Dreaming Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:09:11 +0200 From: Martin Schroeder Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Users dropping into TeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2692 In <199810211301.JAA11121@hilbert.math.albany.edu> "William F. Hammond" writes: >But my original question was motivated by several lines from >"ltx3info.tex" and my wondering whether these lines were durable >for the LaTeX-3 future. >Here are clips of a "newenvironment" and a "newcommand": >%%%%% clip >\newenvironment{citations}{% > \list{}{% > \renewcommand{\makelabel}[1]{\normalfont\itshape ##1}% > }% >}{% > \endlist >} >%%%%% clip >\newcommand{\AmSLaTeX}{$\mathcal A$\lower.4ex\hbox{$\!\mathcal > M\!$}$\mathcal S$-\LaTeX} >%%%%% endclips >(I do not see why "citations" could not have been done entirely in >Lamport LaTeX. (I am unclear what "list" and "endlist" are.)) \newenvironment{foo}{start}{end} defines \foo{start} and \endfoo{end}. But this is an undocumented feature -- which you can use at your own risk. So citations really should be \newenvironment{citations}{% \begin{list}{}{% \renewcommand{\makelabel}[1]{\normalfont\itshape ##1}% }% }{% \end{list}% } I think the official policy on compatibilty is something like: if it's mentionend in the manual or in /doc, it will be provided. Otherwise it might be unavailable or hidden somewhere. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schr"oder, MS@Dream.KN-Bremen.DE \line{Final exhortation: G{\sc O} {\sc FORTH} now and create {\sl masterpieces of the publishing art!\/}} Donald E. Knuth, TeXbook.TeX line 18801f