X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["383" "Wed" "24" "June" "1998" "15:19:14" "+0100" "Philip Taylor (RHBNC)" "CHAA006@VMS.RHBNC.AC.UK" nil "9" "Re: Modules" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26216; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:19:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de (192.88.97.2) by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <8.52769BE5@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:19:27 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 370047 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:19:22 +0200 Received: from vms.rhbnc.ac.uk (alpha1.rhbnc.ac.uk [134.219.201.113]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04297 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:19:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <980624151914.48d9@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:19:14 +0100 From: "Philip Taylor (RHBNC)" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Modules Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2594 >> Of course one way to do that is if the format has \let\def\@undefined How can that work? Assuming that (e.g.) "\newcommand" is macro -> {... \def ...}, then without a LaTeX equivalent of PostScript's "bind", you still need access to "\def"; and if "\newcommand" is macro -> {... \someconcealedversionofdef ...}, then the user can use "\someconcealedversionofdef" :-( ** Phil..