X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["902" "Thu" "4" "December" "1997" "10:04:37" "GMT" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "18" "Re: private macros and journal .cls" "^Date:" nil nil "12" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26133; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:05:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.F180DE69@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:05:07 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 245972 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:04:57 +0100 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24450 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:04:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05131 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:03:05 GMT Received: from screavie.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:04:09 +0000 Received: from lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.192.141]) by screavie.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19082 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:03:38 GMT Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04494; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:04:37 GMT References: <97120409374722@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199712041004.KAA04494@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <97120409374722@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:04:37 GMT From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: private macros and journal .cls Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2528 > 2.09 but prohibits the use of private macros (even if defined in the > preamble with no name clashes, redefinitions etc of standard commands or > ones from the special journal .cls), presumably because this is a > hindrance in conversion to HTML (which has the advantage of being > searchable) which they use as one of their online formats. > > Is this something one must be prepared to accept in the long run? It no. it just means they don't use a very sophisticated converter. i have mildly strong views on this, since my job at present is further development of Elsevier's latex 2 sgml. If we go to the trouble of dealing with arbitrary macros, so can everyone else.... Sebastian [if you have not heard of it before, our converter works by running LaTeX with a highly-specialized LaTeX class, and extracting tagged text from the dvi file. Eitan Gurari's tex4ht uses a similar process.]