X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2000" "Fri" "31" "October" "1997" "07:12:09" "GMT" "Phillip Helbig" "helbig@MULTIVAC.JB.MAN.AC.UK" nil "42" "Re: journal macros (not front matter)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15189; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:18:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <3.EA39701E@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 8:17:38 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 226257 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:17:19 +0100 Received: from multivac (multivac.jb.man.ac.uk [130.88.24.128]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29865 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 08:17:17 +0100 (MET) X-VMS-To: SMTP%"LATEX-L@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" X-VMS-Cc: HELBIG Message-ID: <97103107120947@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 07:12:09 GMT From: Phillip Helbig Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: journal macros (not front matter) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2512 > Phillip Helbig wrote: > > Although I guess there is no reason to REQUIRE a journal to support > > bibliographies generated by BibTeX, it seems a sensible thing to do, > > since in practice hand-coded \bibitems will not be perfect. Of course, > > Requiring BibTeX? Read it again---I said require a journal to SUPPORT bibliographies generated by BibTeX, not require the USE of BibTeX. > At least in Mathematics where the speed > of publication and the pool of potential references for a given > topic are relatively low, BibTeX can be quite an obstruction. If you would rather do it by hand, go ahead. However, with custom-bib it is literally less work to generate a .bst file from scratch and type the references into a .bib file than to code it by hand. Really. It's that user friendly. And if the speed of publication is slow, you're guarded against the journal style changing on you. > Especially in the case of several authors collaborating > via e-mail, and each author being involved in several disjoint > collaborations, I don't know how to efficiently use bibtex > other than having a separate bibliography database for each paper > (which directly contradicts the goal of bibtex...) This is a more important point. Since I'm catching up on old posts, I'll wait and see if anyone has contributed any answer to this first. > Writing a bibliography is trivial compared to every other aspect > in writing a paper, so let's leave it that way. I disagree. If the basis of the paper is a conference contribution, or a thesis etc then the bibliography can actually be the most work:( -- Phillip Helbig Email ... helbig@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. ..... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 297) Jodrell Bank Fax ................. +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................. 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web .... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/