X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["843" "Mon" "27" "October" "1997" "13:45:36" "-0800" "Marcel Oliver" "oliver@MATH.UCI.EDU" nil "19" "Re: journal macros (not front matter)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.158]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA25386; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:25:18 +0100 (MET) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24047; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:25:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <1.E1F07943@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:38:25 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 224540 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:45:48 +0100 Received: from math.uci.edu (root@math.uci.edu [128.200.174.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25826 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:45:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from rasha.math.uci.edu by math.uci.edu (8.8.5) id NAA02341; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rasha.math.uci.edu by rasha.math.uci.edu (8.8.5) id VAA08073; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:45:37 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <97102719061911@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <34550B80.167E@math.uci.edu> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:45:36 -0800 From: Marcel Oliver Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: journal macros (not front matter) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2505 Phillip Helbig wrote: > Although I guess there is no reason to REQUIRE a journal to support > bibliographies generated by BibTeX, it seems a sensible thing to do, > since in practice hand-coded \bibitems will not be perfect. Of course, Requiring BibTeX? At least in Mathematics where the speed of publication and the pool of potential references for a given topic are relatively low, BibTeX can be quite an obstruction. Especially in the case of several authors collaborating via e-mail, and each author being involved in several disjoint collaborations, I don't know how to efficiently use bibtex other than having a separate bibliography database for each paper (which directly contradicts the goal of bibtex...) Writing a bibliography is trivial compared to every other aspect in writing a paper, so let's leave it that way. Marcel