X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1078" "Mon" "27" "October" "1997" "13:34:59" "-0800" "Marcel Oliver" "oliver@MATH.UCI.EDU" nil "21" "Re: journal macros (not front matter)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00181; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:30:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.3E9C9FE7@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:36:35 +0100 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 224535 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:36:04 +0100 Received: from math.uci.edu (root@math.uci.edu [128.200.174.70]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25611 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:35:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from rasha.math.uci.edu by math.uci.edu (8.8.5) id NAA02104; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rasha.math.uci.edu by rasha.math.uci.edu (8.8.5) id VAA08049; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:35:46 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <97102719061911@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <34550903.41C6@math.uci.edu> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:34:59 -0800 From: Marcel Oliver Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: journal macros (not front matter) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2504 Phillip Helbig wrote: > Discussion has concentrated on front matter, but let's not forget other > things which require an author to CHANGE HIS INPUT according to which > journal is to be used, even if the content is the same. These are at > least spelling, whether to italicise foreign words, use of punctuation > in abbreviations and the placement of \caption in figures and tables. I don't think spelling, abbreviations etc. should be handled by the document class. The reasons are simple: It will almost surely create a large amount of infrequently used macros that the average author will not want to remember (or look up every time), assuming he/she is aware of their existence at all. Moreover, it is easy to accidentally not use the macro, so that the publisher will still be required to do careful proofreading. So while frontmatter/bibliography standarization is very desirable and necassary, I don't see any reason to promote the proliferation of a large number of trivial macros which increase the author's and don't decrease the publisher's workload. Marcel