X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1948" "Tue" "14" "October" "1997" "16:15:06" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "56" "Re: frontmatter 98" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29479; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:56:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.D992C747@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:55:41 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 215038 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:55:32 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12903 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:55:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29937 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:53:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:54:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <1622-Tue14Oct1997113530+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199710141441.QAA09578@macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 Message-ID: <9620-Tue14Oct1997161506+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199710141441.QAA09578@macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:15:06 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: frontmatter 98 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2472 > Nice idea, but what about journals that print initials withouth dots? > In the IOP physics journal, they print author names like "T T C Jones", > so if you say \author{surname=Jones, inits=T.T.C.}, your're already > encoding some part of the presentation, not just the information. sigh. troublemaker. "inits=t t c", and journal B can cycle over the elements adding dots? > * What about papers representing a team effort? In the proceedings > issues of plasma physics journals you often find something like > > and the ITER Joint Central Team and Home Teams \author{type=collab, name=The ITER Team} or \collab{name=The ITER Team} > ITER Joint Central Team, presented by A. U. Thor um. tricky one. our DTD has a tag for this. i am tempted to say \author{type=presenter,surname=Thor,forename=A U} > A. U. Thor and ITER Joint Central Team > > to put the presenting author first regardless of the ordering > in the original paper. ah, now ordering of authors is hard... i am assuming natural order, if in doubt. we didnt promise to generate a BibTeX heade from the frontmatter > \address{id=lab1,address=Forschungszentrum Juelich, Germany} > \address{id=lab2,address=Ecole Royale Militaire, Belgium} > \address{id=lab3,address=FOM Institut voor Plasmafysica, Netherlands} > > the official policy may ask for a footnote such as > > \note{id={lab1,lab2,lab3}, > text={partners in the Trilaterial Euregio Cluster}} well, you solved it yourself. there comes a point where you have to giev up and use a \note, perhaps. > (This is indeed a real life example, not something that I've made up.) oh, i believe you. i bet the wretches publish with Elsevier.... another one i am not happy about is shared departments: A U THor Dept Chemistry B L User Dept Physics University of Noddyland i really dont see a clean markup for this sebastian