X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1897" "Tue" "14" "October" "1997" "16:41:29" "+0200" "Ulrik Vieth" "vieth@THPHY.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE" nil "56" "Re: frontmatter 98" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12530; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:42:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.A062757F@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:42:30 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 214980 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:42:22 +0200 Received: from thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.64.10]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA08047 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:42:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de (macbeth.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de) by thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00686; Tue, 14 Oct 97 15:42:56 +0100 Received: by macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA09578; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:41:29 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <199710141441.QAA09578@macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <1622-Tue14Oct1997113530+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> (message from Sebastian Rahtz on Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:35:30 +0100) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:41:29 +0200 From: Ulrik Vieth Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: frontmatter 98 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2470 Sebastian writes: > \author{surname=Rahtz, inits=S., > mainauthor=true, > forename=Sebastian Patrick, > qual=AJFL, > title={}, > address=add1, affiliation=aff1} Nice idea, but what about journals that print initials withouth dots? In the IOP physics journal, they print author names like "T T C Jones", so if you say \author{surname=Jones, inits=T.T.C.}, your're already encoding some part of the presentation, not just the information. Some other \frontmatter problems that haven't been mentioned so far: * What about papers representing a team effort? In the proceedings issues of plasma physics journals you often find something like and the ITER Joint Central Team and Home Teams or even ITER Joint Central Team, presented by A. U. Thor Such papers, especially the latter kind, always cause headaches if you want to encode them in a BibTeX database, especially if some other journals prefer to cite such paper as A. U. Thor and ITER Joint Central Team to put the presenting author first regardless of the ordering in the original paper. * What about address records containing some sort of common element that should be placed as a footnote to several address blocks. For instance, given authors from three labs working in cooperation, \address{id=lab1,address=Forschungszentrum Juelich, Germany} \address{id=lab2,address=Ecole Royale Militaire, Belgium} \address{id=lab3,address=FOM Institut voor Plasmafysica, Netherlands} the official policy may ask for a footnote such as \note{id={lab1,lab2,lab3}, text={partners in the Trilaterial Euregio Cluster}} (This is indeed a real life example, not something that I've made up.) Just a reminder that there a still a number of extra complications waiting to be resolved in an all-encompassing fronmatter spec. Cheers, Ulrik.