X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1623" "Mon" "13" "October" "1997" "20:12:45" "+0100" "Frank Mittelbach" "Frank.Mittelbach@UNI-MAINZ.DE" nil "49" "Re: WILDLY OFF TOPIC (LaTeX & email)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14344 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:10:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.9C43794E@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:48:39 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 214546 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:44:12 +0200 Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.158]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24179 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:44:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from Ufrank@localhost) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA22189 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:44:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE: Ufrank set sender to latex3 using -f Received: (from latex3@localhost) by frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA09112; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:12:45 +0100 References: Message-ID: <199710131912.UAA09112@frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 20:12:45 +0100 From: Frank Mittelbach Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: WILDLY OFF TOPIC (LaTeX & email) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2450 Robin Fairbairns writes: > Each to his own, but let's *not* waste ANY MORE BANDWIDTH on the LaTeX > mailing list about it. And please let's not play silly buggers > mime-ifying messages that don't need them, OK? thanks very much for a) changing the subject some time ago b) suggesting to stop this type of extremely unproductive discussion contrary to some people who seem to write interesting remarks to any topic they see flying by during the day i do scan this type of mail usually in the evening after work which means that a) i pay for every mail message that comes through my phone line which is a lot b) i easily overlook the interesting messages c) i don't get much time to productively work on *real* stuff that might be useful to others i think it would be much more helpful if people would write less handwaving mails and instead think a bit first and then produce more thoughtful messages instead of just making sure that everybody knows they are currently online to the questions discussed lately on this list this would be (from my point of view) - further comments on the interface proposal for frontmatter - an alternative proposal with reasoning why different - thoughts on keyword value syntax for such a proposal - or some older stuff like language interfaces; nobody ever bothered to argue the ideas brought forward by chris and me in that article for TUG97 - or ... all under an appropriate subject line please frank (feeling frustated after a day working on monitoring software for SAP --- and no, i don't what to know yor thoughts on SAP not on this list anyway :-)