X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1807" "Fri" "10" "October" "1997" "17:20:28" "+0200" "Hans Aberg" "haberg@MATEMATIK.SU.SE" nil "35" "Re: LaTeX & email (Was: LaTeX journal and publisher macros)" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04896; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:12:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <14.DEF8D1F8@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:12:10 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 212162 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:11:35 +0200 Received: from mail.nada.kth.se (root@mail.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.92]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA20948 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:11:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [130.237.37.145] (sl73.modempool.kth.se [130.237.37.99]) by mail.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA04820 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:11:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: su95-hab@mail.nada.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <97101015230655@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:20:28 +0200 From: Hans Aberg Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX & email (Was: LaTeX journal and publisher macros) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2437 Phillip Helbig : >There ARE some fancy mailers available for VMS, and I've also had some >experience with more `modern' email packages, but chose to stay with >good old VMS mail since it can do all the basic stuff a typical email >package can, and also some things it can't, and has the advantage of >just working out of the box.... I have some experience of this on UNIX, because the standard text oriented program "mail" is one of the few that does not corrupt the mailbox, and it is still possiblle to pick it down to another computer. >Lots of email and other packages (especially those with a GUI) have a >lot of bells and whistles but really add little functionality, IMHO, and >sometimes distract from the true purpose. But really few uses non-GUI these days, even on UNIX, and the GUI's are much easier to use; and ease of communication is the true purpose. >.. The fact is, as long as not >everyone uses the same operating system, and they shouldn't (unless it's >VMS:), then one MUST stick to the lowest common denominator, which means >less than 80 characters of ASCII 32--126 or whatever. I think it will be difficult for any holding on to this for a long period of time: When the new email readers become abundant, it will be hard for people to bother about those old emailers; it is the dictatorship of the majority, if you so want. The next step around the corner is Unicode, which is the basis for all new personal computers; surely that will go into the mail system. Sticking to old ASCII will not really be possible. Incidentally, this touches on a LaTeX question: What about LaTeX and Unicode? Hans Aberg * AMS member listing: * Email: Hans Aberg