X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1625" "Wed" "8" "October" "1997" "17:34:03" "GMT" "Phillip Helbig" "helbig@MULTIVAC.JB.MAN.AC.UK" nil "32" "Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24502; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:40:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.209EC189@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:40:35 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 210743 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:38:55 +0200 Received: from multivac (multivac.jb.man.ac.uk [130.88.24.128]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03934 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:38:53 +0200 (MET DST) X-VMS-To: SMTP%"LATEX-L@relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" X-VMS-Cc: HELBIG Message-ID: <97100817340325@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:34:03 GMT From: Phillip Helbig Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2409 > I think it's very imporand that relates to this topic: people look at > Lamport's book and say > `but that doesn't do anything like my complex journal style'. when > they look further, they are confronted with 1Gb of rubbish on CTAN, > some of which conceals what they really want - maybe. Anyone who is not a TeXpert who tries to solve a problem starting with the knowledge that `the solution is somewhere in CTAN' is in for a lot of work. For instance, try installing TeX and MF from scratch from CTAN. The TeX on my system came from the VMS freeware CD, which was very easy to install and has everything I need. If progress is to be made on the journal article style, then it must be painless to upgrade a site from 2.09 to 2e. Perhaps something to the VMS freeware CD solution could be (has been) done for other operating systems as well? I realise that there is redundancy if one has a complete package for each OS, but surely disk space has increased since CTAN began more than enough to compensate? > i think we'd all benefit from a new articleplusplus.cls Well, as a Fortran man, let's call it article97 or something similar:) -- Phillip Helbig Email ... helbig@multivac.jb.man.ac.uk Nuffield Radio Astronomy Laboratories Tel. ..... +44 1477 571 321 (ext. 297) Jodrell Bank Fax ................. +44 1477 571 618 Macclesfield Telex ................. 36149 JODREL G UK-Cheshire SK11 9DL Web .... http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pjh/ My opinions are not necessarily those of NRAL or the University of Manchester.