X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["759" "Mon" "6" "October" "1997" "17:29:03" "+0100" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "21" "Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00764; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:29:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.9282CAB5@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 0:29:44 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 209220 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:28:42 +0200 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07745 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:27:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.70 #3) id 0xIG1o-0007kz-00; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:29:04 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:31:21 BST." <1291-Mon06Oct1997153121+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:29:03 +0100 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2356 > i don't mind people lazily omitting fields, but what I *do* mind is them > writing: > > \author{ ...\footnotemark{\ddag}} > ..... > \footnotetext{\ddag}{Corresponding author, current address The Moon} > > ie i can cope with missing information, but not with visual formatting > masquerading as logical markup Quite so. Bane of everyone's life, is this visual formatting. > so allow people to leave stuff out, but try and stop them inserting > horrors into what they do write. BAN THE \thanks COMMAND!!!!! Banning \thanks merely encourages them to write the rubbish out by hand, as you so eloquently suggest above. Short of making each and every command blow up in subtle ways I don't see how you stop people from doing daft things like this. Robin