X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["653" "Thu" "2" "October" "1997" "17:08:33" "+0100" "J%org Knappen, Mainz" "KNAPPEN@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE" nil "19" "Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11465; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:07:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.21D31B8D@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:07:31 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 207421 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:07:04 +0200 Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (dzdmzb.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.33]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10656 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:06:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V5.0-4 #22141) id <01IOC7963FK0AR2GIE@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:08:33 +0100 X-VMS-To: IN%"LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <01IOC7963K9EAR2GIE@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:08:33 +0100 From: "J%org Knappen, Mainz" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2334 Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > I'm even completely unix-free, doing EVERYTHING on VMS (never worse and > and you talk about the stone age! Maybe your mental image of VMS is still a 2 meter high rack with one MicroVAX and its huge and heavy disks, capable of less than a modern PC? VMS on a multiprocessor DEC Alpha machine is not stone age in any respect. Coming back to the topic of this list: I often meet people which have a similar mental image of TeX and LaTeX. They are surprised: What, LaTeX can do colour? What, embedding eps figures runs without pain? because their mental image conserves a state of LaTeX half a decade ago. --J"org Knappen