X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["760" "Thu" "2" "October" "1997" "16:25:56" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "18" "Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros" "^Date:" nil nil "10" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14307; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:27:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.ED186C6C@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:27:31 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 207436 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:27:22 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11807 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:27:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22152 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:26:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:26:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01IOC7963K9EAR2GIE@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 Message-ID: <1535-Thu02Oct1997162556+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <01IOC7963K9EAR2GIE@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:25:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX journal and publisher macros Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2333 > > Maybe your mental image of VMS is still a 2 meter high rack with one > MicroVAX and its huge and heavy disks, capable of less than a modern PC? Microvax? no, before that... > I often meet people which have a similar mental image of TeX and > LaTeX. They are surprised: What, LaTeX can do colour? What, embedding > eps figures runs without pain? because their mental image conserves > a state of LaTeX half a decade ago. and that relates to this topic: people look at Lamport's book and say `but that doesn't do anything like my complex journal style'. when they look further, they are confronted with 1Gb of rubbish on CTAN, some of which conceals what they really want - maybe. i think we'd all benefit from a new articleplusplus.cls sebastian