X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1127" "Fri" "12" "September" "1997" "17:40:36" "+0100" "David Carlisle" "david@DCARLISLE.DEMON.CO.UK" nil "30" "Re: HyperLaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "9" nil "HyperLaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21512; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:51:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.082729C5@listserv.gmd.de>; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:50:09 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 198339 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:51:06 +0200 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (punt-2d.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA03825 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:51:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dcarlisle.demon.co.uk ([194.222.187.145]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1209475; 12 Sep 97 17:40 BST Received: by dcarlisle.demon.co.uk id m0x9Ylo-000OW9C (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:40:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199709121312.JAA15051@fenris.math.albany.edu> (message from Mark Steinberger on Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:12:53 -0400) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:40:36 +0100 From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: HyperLaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2312 > With incompatible \specials, some expertise is needed to even be able to > exchange TeX source. It's not so bad most of the time, If I have a document that goes \usepackage{hyperref,color} then I can have a hyperlinked, coloured document which will work unchanged (at the TeX level) with xdvi (hyperlinked, but monocrome) dvips/ghostscript dvips/ghostscript/distiller/acrobat pdftex/acrobat Y&Y's dviwindo previewer Y&Y's dvipsone/distiller/acrobat OzTeX previewer and probably other things as well. There are still problems relating to graphics inclusion, but that is more to do with differing functionality than with differing syntax. If one driver supports including, say, wmf (MS Windows) files, and another does not, then moving a document that includes such a graphic will involve a bit of effort and conversion, I don't see how a standardised \special syntax for that would help much. It would help me to maintain color/graphics and it would help Sebastian to maintain hyperref, but as long as somebody has put in the work to support a given \special set, it does not make much difference to the end user. David