X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["991" "Fri" "12" "September" "1997" "14:31:29" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "25" "Re: HyperLaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "9" nil "HyperLaTeX" nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04370; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:35:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.BF5FF382@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:33:57 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 197970 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:34:51 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id PAA15201 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:34:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03696 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:34:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:34:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7080-Fri12Sep1997092816+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199709121312.JAA15051@fenris.math.albany.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.4 Message-ID: <8351-Fri12Sep1997143129+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199709121312.JAA15051@fenris.math.albany.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:31:29 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: HyperLaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2311 > With incompatible \specials, some expertise is needed to even be able to > exchange TeX source. "some", yes, one cannot deny. > This is exactly the kind of problem the latex project has solved for > users of straight latex (without \specials). In the world of \specials, > we have the same kind of anarchy that existed for latex 2.09 macro > packages. i certainly do deny this. the LaTeX team have consistently and thoroughly promoted the use of packages which conceal \special s from view, in the area of color and graphics inclusion. I would argue that hyperrref follows the same lead. The typical user has a non-committal LaTeX file saying: \usepackage{foo} and a global .cfg file saying that their preferred driver is XXX (or you can build a special format file which says this). then the LaTeX file can safely be shipped to me, who has driver YYY, and all is well. granted, this is far from ideal, but its not the \special anarchy which we had a few years ago. Sebastian