X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2065" "Tue" "8" "July" "1997" "12:02:04" "+0200" "Ulrik Vieth" "vieth@THPHY.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE" nil "59" "Re: discussing relation of LaTeX to TeX successors" "^Date:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA30688; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:00:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <6.0C4A2E69@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:00:53 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 166251 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:00:27 +0200 Received: from thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (www.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.64.123]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA05389 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:00:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de (macbeth.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de) by thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16278; Tue, 8 Jul 97 12:02:07 +0200 Received: by macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA24208; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:02:04 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <199707081002.MAA24208@macbeth.uni-duesseldorf.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199707080756.RAA20667@flash.anu.edu.au> (message from Richard Walker on Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:56:31 +1000) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:02:04 +0200 From: Ulrik Vieth Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: discussing relation of LaTeX to TeX successors Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2278 > Richard Walker writes: > > Most standards are drafts anyway. > > Errr . . . whatever you say :-) > > Maybe it's just because I don't think leaving it at version 0.9993 > sends the right sort of message. Yes, but see how close it is to 1.0 (the supposedly final version)? If I remember correctly, the version number of the first public review draft (mid-1995) was bumped up to 0.98 to covey the image of being almost finished, while still leaving room for revisions. The second public version (November 1995) was then called 0.999 and officially published in TUGboat 16#4. I believe the reason for not yet calling it 1.0 was simpy to give readers another chance for comments before finalizing it. If I remember correctly, very few things have changed since in the transition from 0.999 to 0.9993, most of which probably had to do with formatting and converting to Texinfo/HTML. In fact, even as a TWG-TDS participant, I can't remember what was actually changed in the text, so it can't have been anything really substantial. As I just found in the mail archive, there was indeed the suggestion to prepare an updated for publication as the official version 1.0. It seems like this somehow never happened, as probably everyone involved was busy with other projects. -=- MIME -=- Rainer Schoepf writes: > Richard Walker writes: >=20 > > Clearly the reason we do not have this for CTAN is the fact that = TDS > > is still only a `draft' standard. >=20 > No! The reason is that there are not enough people in the TeX world > that work on CTAN. Touch\'{e}! But surely there can not be a CTAN.pm before TDS is widely accepted (even if it is not finalized). On the other hand, maybe the availability of a CTAN.pm would encourage wide acceptance of TDS? > Most standards are drafts anyway. Errr . . . whatever you say :-) Maybe it's just because I don't think leaving it at version 0.9993 sends the right sort of message. > Rainer Sch=F6pf (wearing his CTAN hat) Richard (with tie, no hat) Hope this clarifies the situation. Cheers, Ulrik.