X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1748" "Tue" "8" "July" "1997" "09:23:45" "+0100" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "43" "Re: discussing relation of LaTeX to TeX successors" "^Date:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19948; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:38:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <2.DD023D55@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:38:05 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 166232 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:37:41 +0200 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id LAA03982 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:37:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #6) id 0wlVa9-0003ap-00; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:27:30 +1000." <199707080127.LAA19021@flash.anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:23:45 +0100 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: discussing relation of LaTeX to TeX successors Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2277 Richard Walker writes: > Joachim Schrod writes: > > And it isn't impossible to do. Linux and Perl demonstrate it. The ease > > of use of CPAN.pm is something to die for in the TeX world! > > Indeed - I am constantly amazed at how good the CPAN interface works. > If I want package XYZ I just say `install XYZ' and the module is > ftp'ed, configured, tested, and installed automatically. > > Clearly the reason we do not have this for CTAN is the fact that TDS > is still only a `draft' standard. What an astounding logical leap. You suppose that the CTAN team (who have to provide the steering scripts on the archive sites) have nothing to do with the matter? As it happens, we _have_ started moves towards providing a CPAN-like mechanism. However, we all have this tedious imposition of jobs that require us to spend time doing other things... > When that is settled it should be possible to bundle up CTAN packages > in CPAN format, and then use a modified CPAN.pm to access them. Trivial, of course. > (Maybe we need benevolent dictators (i.e. the LaTeX3 Team) to step in > here? :-) People, on the whole, pay no attention to the LaTeX team[*], any more than they do to the CTAN team or any other well-meaning group of individuals. Roughly speaking, if you want something done, you have to do it yourself. Don't imagine that (in the free software world) highly desirable things are going to happen simply because it would be nice if they did... Robin [*] This mailing list is, of course, an exception to this rule -- one might expect it to consist largely of people who have a general respect for the team, and a willingness to accept their suggestions. But it's not exclusive even among our numbers, and in the world at large...