X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1620" "Fri" "4" "July" "1997" "14:21:38" "+0200" "Tobias Burnus" "burnus@BERLIN.NETSURF.DE" nil "33" "Re: Availability of Class files (was: LaTeX3 goals)" "^Date:" nil nil "7" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24377; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:21:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <1.FFB33E16@listserv.gmd.de>; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:21:17 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 163500 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:21:12 +0200 Received: from berlin.netsurf.de (berlin.netsurf.de [194.64.15.4]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id OAA03873 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:21:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by berlin.netsurf.de from www.burnus.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 [@@]) id m0wk7MF-0025uNC; Fri, 4 Jul 97 14:21 MET DST X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707031746.KAA00247@math.uci.edu> <199707041205.OAA07322@centre.univ-orleans.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <33BCEAD2.F2BDAB97@berlin.netsurf.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 14:21:38 +0200 From: Tobias Burnus Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Availability of Class files (was: LaTeX3 goals) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2258 > > latex1: a core tool provided by Them (eg graphics); > distributions > > without all of these are incomplete > > latex2: a generally agreed important tool package (eg calc) > > latex3: a generally agreed important application package (eg > tipa) > > latex4: a package that works under the current LaTeX, has no > known > > bad behaviour, but is not a `must have' (eg nassflow) > > latex5: a package of unknown status, may or may not work, > perhaps > > whose author is not contactable any more > > "Not a 'must have'" seems to me usselessly aggressive to the package > writer, at least if Graham's document is publicly released. Moreover, > if somebody wants to do something and the "xyz" package > exactly does what he needs, what is the use for him to know that the > package has been classified by somebody as a "not a must have"? > And for those who are not interested in what "xyz" package does, > getting an opinion on it is useless too. So, why giving any opinion > at all ? I agree with Michel. I know for instance a chemisty package which isn't written for plain TeX (acctually CONTeXT), but supports LaTeX (i.e. sty files, ifx when loading PiCTeX and using the \f@size [latex2e] and \@point [latex209]). This package would be latex4. If an other package is designed for LaTeX it might be latex3 without being any better. 'not must have' and 'must have' depends also from the point of view: if I don't need e.g. chemical formulars, than these packages are not a `non must have'(latex3-4). For chemists those are real 'must haves' (latex1). Tobias Burnus