X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1398" "Thu" "26" "June" "1997" "16:33:55" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "31" "Re: ideal future document processing" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22397; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:34:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.9C3424C4@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:34:06 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 159845 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:34:01 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id RAA27931 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:33:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26487 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:34:22 +0100 Received: from knott.elsevier.co.uk (knott.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.165]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25999 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:34:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by knott.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.3/8.8.5) id QAA25264; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:33:55 +0100 (BST) References: Message-ID: <199706261533.QAA25264@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:33:55 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: ideal future document processing Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2218 Hans Aberg writes: > as a formula, for example. So formulas are in much wider use that in just fair point, given your revised version of formula > math, and it is good for LaTeX, or any documentprocessing system, to > support that, mainly because it is costly not having the author entering > the formulas. equally, it is very expensive to separate out the meat of a `formula' from the ad hoc formatting imposed on it by the author; yes, i do know that often the presentation matters, but equally often it is sheer flimmery and the author herself is happy to see it go. while it is true that saving the cost of capturing the `formula' is a good thing, it is often outweighed by the cost of dealing with the rest of the abysmally LaTeXed article. I am, I confess, getting very tired of having to defend the conventional publishers like my employers, but you must realize that rekeying of material by quite low-level workers in the Philippines is surprisingly often more cost effective than dealing with the LaTeX submission. > So the ideal for the author, is probably to quickly output the semantic > contents, and it should be possible to somehow enter the other stuff > independently of this (also so that it is possible to choose a > suitable so, you enter the semantic content in SGML, and twitch a DSSSL style sheet which describes the layout, to your hearts content Sebastian