X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["978" "Thu" "26" "June" "1997" "13:29:21" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "29" "Re: what is a latex command" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18358; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:34:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.367D1DBD@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:32:18 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 159721 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:29:58 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id OAA18446 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:29:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19426 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:26:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:29:53 +0100 Received: from knott.elsevier.co.uk (knott.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.165]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24948 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:29:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by knott.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.3/8.8.5) id NAA24722; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:29:21 +0100 (BST) References: <199706251348.OAA22853@knott.elsevier.co.uk> <199706261043.LAA02841@fell.open.ac.uk> <199706261107.MAA24582@knott.elsevier.co.uk> <199706261209.NAA03028@fell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199706261229.NAA24722@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199706261209.NAA03028@fell.open.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:29:21 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: what is a latex command Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2211 > As much as I care about any other large number of people doing things > with documents, yes. well, the issue is how large does the group get for you to notice it > as you suggest, but if that is all we need then we should leave out > the TeX bit and just: > > make an even better formatting engine yes please pretty please. keep the TeX macro language for those who like it as a means of communication, but disengage it from the formatting engine. oh hell now we are back full circle. and i have a feeling Chris and I are simply agreeing that a) the (La)TeX language in all its glory should be cut down for the communication subset (somehow!) b) work on formatting engines should be independent of TeX markup which is a trite pair of conclusions,and proabbly the basis for NTS anyway. > > algorithms for float placement.... > > Oh please, yes please! No one ever sent me one yet. the chattering classes have one. it is `when it looks nice' sebastian