X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1548" "Thu" "26" "June" "1997" "11:16:00" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "38" "Re: Frontmatter standardization" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07940; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:16:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.2CB3D1DF@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:16:01 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 159629 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:15:53 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id MAA11543 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:15:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15784 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:12:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:16:27 +0100 Received: from knott.elsevier.co.uk (knott.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.165]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24132 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:16:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by knott.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.3/8.8.5) id LAA24492; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:16:00 +0100 (BST) References: <199706242245.PAA11197@math.uci.edu> <199706250955.KAA22635@knott.elsevier.co.uk> <199706251452.PAA22938@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Message-ID: <199706261016.LAA24492@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:16:00 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Frontmatter standardization Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2202 > I don't see how that can work for AMS journals: For most of them > "current address" prints together with main address at the end of an > article; but a few of them have main address at top of page one with the > author name and current address as a footnote on page one. this does i agree sound a mess. do you introduce an extra optional argument, eg \address[a][beach hut]{real home} ? > How do you deal with name inversion (it doesn't appear that you require > name data to have the form "Last, First, Jr"?), or reducing first names > from full form to initials (the elsart examples suggest an expectation > that only the initials will ever be used, everywhere)? you are right, it isnt as good as i was claiming. we use, i am afraid, a \runauthor{} command to override the calculated running head if necessary > ---No \dedicatory element? (In some publications this might be printed > under the title, in others as a footnote.) we do have \dedicated internally, but it isnt advertised > ---No \email element? \translator? we do not support \translator in our DTD either. which suggests to me that it didnt emerge in our original document analysis. I agree, \email is another omission > ---I don't care for having \thanksref embedded in the author name, I'd > rather see different syntax. so would i > But the elsart markup for author names and addresses looks better than > current amsart. i would be very happy to argue within Elsevier to change or extend our markup to make it compatible with other people sebastian