X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2054" "Wed" "25" "June" "1997" "20:25:42" "+0200" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "57" "Re: what is a latex command" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04202; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:33:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <4.219A45FF@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:30:49 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 159239 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:30:45 +0200 Received: from ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate02.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.2]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id UAA23181 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:26:08 +0200 (MET DST) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:25:56 +0200 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:25:39 +0200 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:24:24 +0200 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN2 in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:25:42 +0200 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199706251824.TAA02177@fell.open] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: what is a... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: , <199706200736.JAA07288@perdita.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>, <199706202212.AAA03367@frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de>, <199706210958.KAA09192@fell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <199706251824.TAA02177@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199706251348.OAA22853@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:25:42 +0200 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: what is a latex command Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2194 Sebastian Rahtz wrote -- > > For further information, try: > > > > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/raman.html > not, of course, a full LaTeX interpreter Of course?? I defer to your detailed knowledge. > > > Another well-established system that parses LaTeX directly is the GUI > > manager of TCI's products: Scientific Workplace and Scientific > > Notepad. > ditto, surely? Technically false but you are right that with some stuff it merely says: "oh, a bit of random TeX, let's hide it in shameful grey". > > > plug-ins or helpers. An interesting and available example is > > TechExplorer (for Windows at present; I do not have the url accessible > it doesnt deal with arbitrary LaTeX, though, does it No, but it wants to (so its keepers told me) but NOT with arbitrary TeX, that is my main point. > > Therefore in looking forward to LaTeX3 we need to be aware not only of > > new Tex-based systems but of other systems reading LaTeX. > > > do you think any of them have any long-term viability? How long is long-term in this context? They may be like TeX/LaTeX/Unix/two-digit-year-data-types, none of which were intended to be "long-term". > the projects I > am aware of would probably go straight over to MathML if it is a > success Which projects? I think you (and maybe they, but maybe not) misunderstand MathML. One of the many requirements for the success of MathML is considered (by its creators, amongst others) to be applications that can parse "TeX" and turn it into MathML. "TeX" is in inverted commas since, as they are now beginning to realise, they do not really mean TeX, they mean a restricted, formalised syntax that contains most of the actual TeX that is out there, which is where we came in. It is in the people working on "these projects" that I find the most acceptance of LaTeX as being an essential part of the foreseeable future, not as something that will be swept away by *****ML or ****SSSSSL or any other new language. But they clearly give Sebastian a different impression. chris