X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1067" "Tue" "24" "June" "1997" "11:34:23" "+0100" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "26" "Re: LaTeX3 goals (was Re: ideal future document processing environment)" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06869; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:34:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <4.6E738365@listserv.gmd.de>; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:34:33 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 158624 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:34:27 +0200 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA16431 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:34:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dorceus.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #5) id 0wgSvY-0006SB-00; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:34:24 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:25:09 +0200." <199706231823.TAA11154@fell.open.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:34:23 +0100 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: LaTeX3 goals (was Re: ideal future document processing environment) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2174 Chris writes (quoting Soren Sandmann Pedersen): > > > I think many of these users could be conviced if there were a large > > set of example classes to follow LaTeX3. > > Yes, we should like there to be a lot more good classes too: so you > (all of you) write some! Please. So often one gets asked "please will you convert this code to run under 2e". I find the result of doing this is almost always unpleasing. I've just recently done a new class (for a new layout for a journal that used to be exclusively prepared in a wysiAwyg fashion) from scratch, and am quite pleased with the result. The same client is asking for more... The trouble with these things is, that unless you're very careful and/or start with a view to having the thing publishable, the end result is unlikely to be terribly enlightening. There aren't enough people out there willing to pay for these things, and there are limited amounts of time for people to do them for free (most of us have other things to do with our lives, however dedicated we are to everything Knuthian ;-) Robin