X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1900" "Sat" "21" "June" "1997" "12:00:37" "+0200" "Chris Rowley" "C.A.Rowley@OPEN.AC.UK" nil "46" "Re: what is a latex command" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA03476; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:01:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <4.401A5BAB@listserv.gmd.de>; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:01:01 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 157325 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:57 +0200 Received: from ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de (ixgate01.dfnrelay.d400.de [193.174.248.1]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id MAA28067 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:54 +0200 (MET DST) X400-Received: by mta d400relay in /PRMD=dfnrelay/ADMD=d400/C=de/; Relayed; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:44 +0200 X400-Received: by mta venus in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:34 +0200 X400-Received: by mta fell.open.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 11:58:48 +0200 X400-Received: by mta UK.AC.MHS-RELAY.SUN2 in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=gb/; Relayed; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:37 +0200 X400-Originator: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/;<199706210958.KAA09192@fell.open] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: Re: what is a... Alternate-Recipient: Allowed References: , <199706191620.RAA07046@fell.open.ac.uk>, <199706200736.JAA07288@perdita.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>, <199706201304.PAA08599@perdita.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>, <199706202212.AAA03367@frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <199706210958.KAA09192@fell.open.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <33AB86D7.C1A536D@vvv.vsu.ru> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:00:37 +0200 From: Chris Rowley Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: what is a latex command Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2151 Vladimir I am putting some information here not just to educate:-) you but because I think that these developments are also of crucial importance to the future of LaTeX, and they counter Sebastian-the-publisher's thesis that "TeX is everywhere under attack and in decline". > > but your point that there is only one such interpreter is simply > > wrong. there is, for example, a voice rendering system that turns > > latex including math and all into speech --- very impressive in fact, > > and it deals with the full latex language as defined above. > > I did not see this system :-) Is it available at CTAN? > This system was in fact developed precisely as a way of allowing access to mathematical knowledge for people who have difficulty reading printed material; but it can also do lots of interesting things to render audible the structure of other aspects of documents. For further information, try: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/raman.html or raman@adobe.com Another well-established system that parses LaTeX directly is the GUI manager of TCI's products: Scientific Workplace and Scientific Notepad. Other systems that parse LaTeX (not necessarily whole documents) are "computer algebra" systems. There are also now systems that read LaTeX documents and render them directly for screen viewing: these are being developed as web browser plug-ins or helpers. An interesting and available example is TechExplorer (for Windows at present; I do not have the url accessible for this right now, maybe others do?). This is definitely an area where interest in TeX has increased; I admit to being as surprised by the quantity and quality of the activity in this area as Don Knuth and Leslie Lamport are that anyone still used TeX/LaTeX! Therefore in looking forward to LaTeX3 we need to be aware not only of new Tex-based systems but of other systems reading LaTeX. chris