X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["812" "Thu" "19" "June" "1997" "15:23:41" "+0100" "David Carlisle" "david@DCARLISLE.DEMON.CO.UK" nil "38" "Re: Multilingual TeX --- and a successor to TeX" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA07239; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:49:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.D565C42A@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:49:04 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 156137 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:48:06 +0200 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (relay-13.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.21]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id XAA16971 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from dcarlisle.demon.co.uk ([194.222.187.145]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1223668; 19 Jun 97 19:16 BST Received: by dcarlisle.demon.co.uk id m0wei7h-000OVpC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:23:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <33A84856.4C60C211@vvv.vsu.ru> (message from Vladimir Volovich on Thu, 19 Jun 1997 00:43:02 +0400) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:23:41 +0100 From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Multilingual TeX --- and a successor to TeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2114 > I expected to get the same results for these two \showbox commands. Yes you should. Consider the following (as long as the 8bit lines of latin-1 get through the mail) It produces four identical results, each looking like: > \box0= \hbox(8.56377+0.0)x27.21558 .\T1/cmr/m/n/10 ^^c1 .\kern-0.83313 .\T1/cmr/m/n/10 ^^dd .\kern-0.83313 .\T1/cmr/m/n/10 ^^c1 .\kern-1.11084 .\T1/cmr/m/n/10 V \documentclass{article} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \showoutput \setbox0=\hbox{\'A\'Y\'AV} \showbox0 \setbox0=\hbox{\MakeUppercase{\'a\'y\'av}} \showbox0 \setbox0=\hbox{V} \showbox0 \setbox0=\hbox{\MakeUppercase{v}} \showbox0 \stop So somewhere you must have a definition that is inserting extra tokens that are breaking the kerns. David