X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["930" "Wed" "18" "June" "1997" "09:34:56" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "22" "Re: ideal future document processing environment" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA31458; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:34:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <5.AFF8FA48@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:34:38 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 155131 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:34:29 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id KAA10446 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:34:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24424 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:30:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:35:05 +0100 Received: from lochnagarn.elsevier.co.uk (lochnagarn.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.216.1]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16591 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:34:59 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by lochnagarn.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA17940; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:34:56 +0100 (BST) References: <199706171750.SAA03440@fell.open.ac.uk> <199706171806.OAA27185@fenris.math.albany.edu> Message-ID: <199706180834.JAA17940@lochnagarn.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199706171806.OAA27185@fenris.math.albany.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:34:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: ideal future document processing environment Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2092 Mark Steinberger writes: > Many publishers already rely on authors to do the initial stages of > typesetting. > > I suspect that the percentage of such publications is on the > increase, and that the trend will accelerate. this is not true for my employers; we try and discourage authors from typesetting, it just muddies the waters > At least in mathematics, authors currently work in TeX (and if one is > lucky, latex). Authors may well be willing to learn a new system, but > only if they are given a good reason to do so. our authors do not use TeX for math; well, some do, some dont. lets not pretend its by any means its universal > Is there an adequate reason to move away from TeX? If not, then > authoring tools should be TeX-based. yes, there is a reason. it promotes abuse (mixing typesetting with structure), and its not very amenable to validation. well, all the reasons SGML was invented.... sebastian