X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1023" "Mon" "16" "June" "1997" "16:26:14" "+0100" "Sebastian Rahtz" "s.rahtz@ELSEVIER.CO.UK" nil "26" "Re: use of e-tex" "^Date:" nil nil "6" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA19229; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:34:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from lsv1.listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.D3F339F6@listserv.gmd.de>; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:26:02 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 154276 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:25:57 +0200 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id RAA12509 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:25:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04454 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:22:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:26:17 +0100 Received: from knott.elsevier.co.uk (knott.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.165]) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07210 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:26:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by knott.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.3/8.8.5) id QAA16549; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:26:14 +0100 (BST) References: <970616122025.3714@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> <199706161450.OAA16450@ew160061.nets.de.eds.com> Message-ID: <199706161526.QAA16549@knott.elsevier.co.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <199706161450.OAA16450@ew160061.nets.de.eds.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:26:14 +0100 From: Sebastian Rahtz Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: use of e-tex Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2055 Nice summary, Frank. I go along with it. I get mail every day from LaTeX users trying to send us manuscripts; they fall into 3 categories - those who don't know 2e exists - those who have a 1994 version and dont understand why it breaks - those who can't control it anyway (viz Scientific Word users) and a very few who have the same setup that i do... there is _no way_ these people will upgrade to get at the sort of extra e-TeX provides. they _might_ upgrade to Omega, i suppose, if they are typesetting Russian. what they _do_ use is pdftex. I am amazed at how wide-spread references to it are, in purely academic places, in `semi-commercial' contexts (like the man redoing all the Debian Linux docs with pdftex) and the publishing world, where it has undoubtedly struck a chord. i am biased, of course, but my ideal future is the `NTS' box that takes the Omega engine and uses DSSSL as its style language to format XML documents. from that perspective, there is simply no place for `LaTeX' at all. Sebastian