X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2059" "Thu" "17" "April" "1997" "16:48:56" "+0100" "J%org Knappen, Mainz" "KNAPPEN@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE" nil "44" "Re: Capital greek letters and the math font encoding" "^Date:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA28222; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:49:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.D0CFA816@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:49:44 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 126752 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:49:41 +0200 Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (dzdmza.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.178.30]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id QAA13656 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:49:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE by MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE (PMDF V5.0-4 #10401) id <01IHTGAH8C7GFTFBOT@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:48:56 +0100 X-VMS-To: IN%"LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <01IHTGAH8D5AFTFBOT@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:48:56 +0100 From: "J%org Knappen, Mainz" Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Capital greek letters and the math font encoding Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1985 David, if you really want to emulate the behaviour of \mathrm{\gamma} with the MC font encoding, this is a solution to the problem. It is not the only one, as I want to line out in some more detail: Currently the is a _subencoding_ OMA (Old Math Alphabetic), which is a subset of both OML (cmmi's encoding) and OT1 (cmr's encoding). It contains the latin A-Z, a-z, the digits 0-9, and the greek special capitals \Gamma- \Omega (including \Upsilon). This subencoding currently has something to do with the text encoding, since cmr is both cm text roman and cm math roman at the same time. However, the connection is not necessary. I am thinking of a new subencoding MA (Math Alphabetic) which is in fact OMA plus lowercase greek letters plus completed uppercase greek letters plus some letterlike symbols (\dbar coming to my mind as an obvious candidate for this, \partial and \Nabla, too. This list not complete.). Then we could have a differently organised group of fonts: Current situation Justin's Proposal alternative proposal OT1 (cmr) T1 (?) MC1 * OML (cmmi) MC MC2 OMS (cmsy) MSP MSP OMX (cmex) MX MX ** U (all other) MS1 MS1 MS2 MS2 MA is subset of both MC1 and MC2, where MC1 contains math roman and MC2 math italic. Further fonts (without symbols, but purely MA encoded) can provide math text italic, math sans serif and math typewriter on demand. Since It is possible to make OML (or almost all of it) a subset of MC2 and (almost all of) OT1 a subset of MC1, compatibility to the old version can be kept. * T1 for math roman is not explicitly stated in Justin's proposal, as far as I can see. ** MX may need splitting in tow parts. In this case, separating the vertically extensible things from the horizontally extensibles ones looks preferable to me. --J"org Knappen