X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1068" "Thu" "17" "April" "1997" "16:13:01" "+0100" "David Carlisle" "carlisle@MA.MAN.AC.UK" nil "21" "Re: Capital greek letters and the math font encoding" "^Date:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA13762; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:26:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <10.5D4EE6BD@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:26:43 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 126809 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:26:32 +0200 Received: from nessie.mcc.ac.uk (pp@nessie.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.20]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id SAA19960 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from yama.mcc.ac.uk by nessie.mcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:12:32 +0100 Received: from vummath.ma.man.ac.uk by yama.mcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:02:20 +0100 Received: by vummath.ma.man.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA20015; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:13:01 +0100 Message-ID: <199704171513.QAA20015@vummath.ma.man.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: <01IHTGAH8D5AFTFBOT@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE> (KNAPPEN@MZDMZA.ZDV.UNI-MAINZ.DE) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:13:01 +0100 From: David Carlisle Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Capital greek letters and the math font encoding Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1984 > Further fonts (without symbols, but purely MA encoded) can > provide math text italic, math sans serif and math typewriter on demand. but that I think is the difficulty. Every text font that may possibly be used in math would have to be re-encoded, and the only benefit of this would come if the re-encoded font really had the uppercase Greek rather than empty slots. Except in the case of cm it is not clear where such matching Greek will come from. I think that being able to use text fonts (with the current text encoding, be it T1 or OT1 or 8r or LY1 or...) in math as \mathsf \mathit etc is a good thing to aim for. Thus I would like to aim for that first, and investigate possibilities for accessing uppercase (and lowercase) Greek in different styles within that framework as a `first attempt'. An encoding that mixes Greek and Roman in the same font is likely only to ever be used by cm and in that case there is not so much to be gained by having a `standard' math encoding as all non cm math setups would necessarily use a non standard encoding. David