X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1801" "Thu" "17" "April" "1997" "09:21:00" "+0100" "Robin Fairbairns" "Robin.Fairbairns@CL.CAM.AC.UK" nil "38" "Re: Alternatives to LaTeX" "^Date:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA23875; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:21:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <9.88BEFA3E@listserv.gmd.de>; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:21:10 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 126537 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:21:08 +0200 Received: from heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk (exim@heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.32.11]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with SMTP id KAA25513 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:21:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.1.34] (rf) by heaton.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.59 #2) id 0wHmRG-0001qi-00; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:58:01 +0200." Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:21:00 +0100 From: Robin Fairbairns Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Alternatives to LaTeX Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1982 Hans Aberg writes: > Getting a translation PS font -> METAFONT might be a partial help, but it > will not resolve the math fonts issue, which is tied up to the problems of > kerning, and optical scaling, font families matching, etc. A translation type1->metafont (I presume it's type1 you're talking about) isn't really the serious issue, IMO. Such things exist already, and make a good (though uninspired) job of it: Yannis Haralambous gave a metafont tutorial in Windsor a while back, in which the basis of the practical sessions was "adding metaness" to some type1->mf translated things. It was the most challenging part of the tutorial; adding metaness is terrifically tricky. (On a par, perhaps, with hinting a type1 font.) > The sorry thing that there are not many math font families to choose > from, and one idea of the math encoding project was trying to help changing > that. No: the maths font encoding project was just that: a means to sort out the sorry mess that's arisen with umpteen fonts (from Knuth, the AMS, Washington, St Mary's Road, Old Uncle Tom Cobley and all) each with their own encodings of small parts of the problem, each independently encoded, but with some duplicated glyphs. The chances of anyone doing more than synthesis are small: J"org Knappen, for example, has dedicated a lot of effort to improving and extending the DC, TC, and now the EC fonts, but is he going to be willing to go on and upward to the huge area of maths encodings? If not him, who? The real problem is that Metafont experts are few and far between; designers who are also such experts are even rarer. And designers, anyway, have this tendency to want to be paid for the work they do while we're a small community that tends not to have money to throw around... Robin Fairbairns