X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1443" "Wed" "16" "April" "1997" "22:14:14" "+0200" "Frank Mittelbach" "Frank.Mittelbach@UNI-MAINZ.DE" nil "31" "Re: Alternatives to LaTeX (Was Some comments...)" "^Date:" nil nil "4" nil nil nil nil nil] nil) Received: from listserv.gmd.de (listserv.gmd.de [192.88.97.1]) by mail.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA24891 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from listserv.gmd.de by listserv.gmd.de (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <7.79C30C18@listserv.gmd.de>; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:53:34 +0200 Received: from RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE by RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 126259 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:53:06 +0200 Received: from kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.158]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.7.6/8.7.4) with ESMTP id WAA14294 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:52:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de (Ufrank@localhost) by kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id WAA26491 for LATEX-L@RELAY.URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:38:48 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE: Ufrank set sender to frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de!latex3 using -f Received: (from latex3@localhost) by frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA09620; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:14:14 +0200 References: Message-ID: <199704162014.WAA09620@frank.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:14:14 +0200 From: Frank Mittelbach Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project To: Multiple recipients of list LATEX-L Subject: Re: Alternatives to LaTeX (Was Some comments...) Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1978 > >> So I do not think this is a minor issue, when it comes down to TeX; this > >> is in fact something that really makes TeX typesetting. > > > >It *is* a minor issue by comparison with the matching-fonts issue, > >IMO. > > So is the suggestion that the LaTeX3 project should start use rescaled > fonts, just because everybody else is doing so, or in favour of a fonts > matching issue, or because the Springer typesetting is appaling in some > other respects? pardon me but this type of discussion is filling my mailbox and makes it difficult for me to follow or even find important arguments. a) the question of optically designed fonts is important for typography (although only in parts) but TeX can do it and LaTeX already has an interface to address it transparently and so it is a non-issue b) the latex project does not "use" fonts it provides for their use and scaled fonts might well be superior than optical fonts for certain documents (because of the quality of the font or its face or ...) c) if it would be something that TeX can't do (such as optical alignment or many other things --- see for example that E-TeX Guidelines article TUB) then tough --- as far as the LaTeX project is concerned as long as there isn't a used successor for TeX that does provide it then unfortunately that is the end of the story and a LaTeX successor will not provide it either frank